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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby X-Wing Fighter Pilot » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:04 am

Also, I'm ignoring most of the rumours and fan forum disapproval, there's always the so called 'die hards' who wouldn't accept a new film no matter who or what the circumstances were, because everyone of them has their own view on what should and shouldn't be in it. They can stick to the orinal trilogy, nobodies forcing them to accept prequels and sequels. They are/will be out there, enjoy, accept or ignore.
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby x-wing_flyboy » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:18 pm

A mild mannered rant though dave, well done.

Looking forward to it all, really want to be amazed!
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby old-fool » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:23 am

JJA didn't make the reboot movies for Star Trek, that was the job he was hired to do. Don't misunderstand, I'm an old ST fan, (in every way these days) but I don't mind new movies being made. Like I said, Enterprise killed the TV series, ST;TNG had already made their last film, and thre was no more milage left in Voyager, and DS9 was never going to have films made. So what next? I would've love Captain Sulu films, but it was judged too late by the producers. It was decided upon a reboot, and it's been a partial success. Even if the plot was contrived, it did at least make some sense. But it was the film company who wanted the reboot, JJA just directed it.

Disney want a continuation, and I've said this before so I know I'm either not being read, am being misunderstood or just disbelieved. It's SW Ep VII, not a reboot, not a new SW Ep I, (though frankly that would be jolly nice) it's a continuation of a still popular story. If you want to say that Batman is a good example, I disagree. The 1960's Batman was a comedy, camp and cartoonish. Was it enjoyable, absolutely. But in your concept, all Batman series, films would need to be the same. The films by Tim Burton et al were superb, then good, then dire. The same chap didn't play Batman in all films, there were changes, but I agree, at least it was a continuation. Like ST Enterprise though, that continuation killed the franchise. So, they started again, and the films have been much better than they ended.

It's rather like any story. When it has been put down by one generation, left for a while, the next want to see what it is and put their finger prints all over it. But SW has never been put down like that, there have never needed to be campaigns to make new films, etc. and I don't believe these new films will be worse than the last three, certainly not worse than the first one. So, I'd simply say to anyone who wants to throw paint at the van, (my own phrase, I thank you) just hold on a mo. Wait until it is made and we'll all see, butyou might find out it's all fun and biscuits, (again, mine, I'm just so full of, well, something).
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby X-Wing Fighter Pilot » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:17 pm

If there's biscuits, it's a certain winner.
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby old-fool » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:29 pm

Exactly!
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby old-fool » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:15 pm

What you are essentially saying is that once things are done they should be set in stone, and never changed. Looking back at some of the remakes in film, TV, etc. I can't see how that would work. I love Shakespeare, but to your concept, none of the films of the plays would exist. The wonderful performances, the recreation of his plays in the modern era, etc. wouldn't happen. Take Ricahrd III, a favourite of mine, (shock eh?) a great play, but seeing Ian Mckellen take on the role, based as it was in the film in the 1930's/40's, was a masterpiece.

I understand the issue with not wrecking a concept, but you picked a poor example with Battlestar Galactica. The reimagined series was incredible and is probably the best sci-fi series ever made. I say that as a big ST and B5 fan. BSG was so much better than the original, which I also love. It was also not a carbon copy. It used the same starting point, (ish) and the same baseline, but everything else was new. I'd say that was also true of the Batman films, all of them. I don't say that they were based on the comics, that's nonsense. Again, they take inspiration from, and run with it.

As far as I can see it, life is about change, and so are films, TV series and so on. Some we won't like, so you leave them. Others we do and take them on board. What is rather objectionable is the idea that all change is, for it's own sake, and before a scene has been shot, wrong. We don't know what the next SW films are to be like. No one has outside Lucasfilm and Disney. It's like saying that all George Lucas's ideas, film, whatever are good. They weren't, some were dogs, and GL is a flawed character. Aren't we all? So, rather than generating lots of heat rather than light, give the new flicks a chance.

I love SW. I have a sci-fi room filled with it. I don't want the new films to be bad, and if they are, like TMP was, I won't watch them again. But, take it from me when I say that Disney won't want this to end at Ep 7. They paid £2.5 billion and don't want a lemon for that money. There will be so many people watching how this goes that it won't come down to one man.
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Re: Episode VII gets a director

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Re: Episode VII gets a director

Postby old-fool » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:33 am

God forbid anyone should have an idea that something can be improved, that's not an excuse for anything. By the way, how is your Model T Ford these days?
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